Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; 16 OCT 89 17:42:26 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0146; Mon, 16 Oct 89 17:42:38 BS Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2582; Mon, 16 Oct 89 17:42:37 B Received: by CEARN (Mailer R2.04) id 1500; Mon, 16 Oct 89 17:41:12 GVA Date: Mon, 16 Oct 89 08:24:31 MDT Reply-To: INFO-ATARI16@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was INFO-A16@MARIST From: INFO-ATARI16-REQUEST@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #524 Comments: To: INFO-ATARI16@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-ATARI16 Digest Mon, 16 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 524 Today's Topics: Event multi PC-Ditto II/ PC-Speed Problems with LASER C 2.1 (2 msgs) Tex, LaTeX, gulam, etc. TOS 1.4 Incompatibility List TOS 1.4 problem TOS 1.4 release ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Oct 89 22:37:39 GMT From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!poole@uunet.uu.net (Simon Poole) Subject: Event multi In article <1329@gmdzi.UUCP> kloppen@gmdzi.UUCP (Jelske Kloppenburg) writes: > >With graf_mkstate you can *sample* the state of the mouse buttons. But the >question is, how to wait with event_multi on either mouse button. I did not >solve the problem and I'm waiting too for contributions. [Sigh! This one turns up often enough to be included on a list of commonly asked questions, did anybody ever do something about this?] Your best bet is to install your own vdi mouse button handler, save the "incoming" button mask in a variable and replace the original value (if I remember correctly it's in d0) with the value for the left button. After you've done that jump to the original button handler, the whole thing needs just a couple of assembler instructions, so it's really trivial. In your event loop just wait for a left button event and then sample the stored value for the button that was really pressed. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simon Poole poole@verw.switch.ch/poole@chx400.switch.ch/mcvax!cernvax!chx400!poole ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 89 09:32:39 GMT From: peregrine!ccicpg!felix!dhw68k!etg@uunet.uu.net (Eric Bennett) Subject: PC-Ditto II/ PC-Speed In article <22923@cup.portal.com> Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) writes: >I haven't seen PC-Speed yet, niether have Dave Small or Jim Allen. >Their comments were that it was Germany, it was supposed to be good, >it does require soldering, and that they can't guarantee that it will >work with Spectre GCR or the FAST Technologies 16mhz board (in fact >I think Mr Allen said for sure that it wouldn't work with the accel board >because of the soldering connection.) > >Peter Szymonik >Xorg@cup.portal.com As far as PC Speed vs. PC Ditto II I think PC Ditto II will be a better product. PC Speed is only going to support CGA. They are working on 16 color EGA for PC Ditto II-and you will get 16 color EGA out of your standard Atari SC1224 monitor. The price for PC Ditto II is $299. I think the EGA option (which, by the way, they say will be the only other addition to the PC Ditto II board) will cost extra. The original PC Ditto II release will not have it. Eric Bennett ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 89 19:22:12 GMT From: mcgill-vision!quiche!depeche@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Sam Alan EZUST) Subject: Problems with LASER C 2.1 Anyone else have this problem: Whenever I use the "goto line" function or the "find" command from the shell I loose the mouse pointer.. THat is, it's there but I can't see it. I gotta run another GEM program which switches the pointer back on before I can see what I am doing. grrr. how frustrating. I can't wait to get PC-Speed so I can run f*cking Turbo C. I sent a letter to Megamax. I will tell you how long they take to reply to it... -- S. Alan Ezust aka "Depeche Modem" depeche@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca McGill University Computer Science Disclaimer: I claim everything! Montreal, Quebec, Canada (je pense que.... ) je me souviens "This kind of pornography is a matter of artistic creativity" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1989 0:31:38 MET From: LarsErikOsterud Subject: Problems with LASER C 2.1 Why do you need PC-Speed to run Turbo-C ? There is a Turbo-C compiler for Atari ST !! Lars-Erik / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ ________________________ Osterud / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / The norwegian ST __________/ ______________________/ ____/ / Klubben, user association ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 89 01:58:07 GMT From: tank!news@handies.ucar.edu (NetNews) Subject: Tex, LaTeX, gulam, etc. anonymous ftp from terminator.cc.umich.edu. From: ron@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Ron McClamrock) Path: tartarus.uchicago.edu!ron ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron McClamrock ron@tartarus.uchicago.edu Department of Philosophy & Committee on the Conceptual Foundations of Science University of Chicago 1050 E. 59th Street Chicago IL 60615 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 89 21:23:19 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!nikhefh!t19@uunet.uu.net (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Subject: TOS 1.4 Incompatibility List The compress.ttp which was posted in comp.binaries.atari.st does not work either. Does anyone have a working copy? (saves a lot of time on 1200baud) G.J. van Oldenborgh ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 89 22:32:16 GMT From: milton!blake!charlop@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Aaron Charlop) Subject: TOS 1.4 problem In article <1261@cacilj.UUCP> paul@cacilj.UUCP (Paul Close) writes: >In article <22966@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes: >> >>You haven't been following the "grapevine documentation" for TOS 1.4, Aaron.. >>(what..? you expected docs for your $100...? get real) > >Well, who got out of bed on the wrong side this morning? :-) > >When I bought TOS 1.4 from my dealer I got a nice, four page document from >Atari describing the new TOS procedures. Included was the new file selector >("formerly called item selector"), the MOVE operation (hold the ctl key when >you drag files), warm/cold resets from the keyboard (Ctl/Alt/del >Ctl/Alt/Rshift/del, resp.), installing auto-booting gem applications, and a >few other things I can't remember right now. > >Maybe you should be flaming your dealer instead? >-- >Paul Close paul@cacilj.CTS.COM ...!?uunet, ucsd, crash?!cacilj!paul > > The Obi-wan Kenobi method: "Use the Source, Luke" -Jim Fulton Well, my dealer didn't give me anything that descibed the new features. All I got were my ROMs and a photocopy of the sheet showing what changes to make to the Mega mother board to install the six chip set into a two chip system. And that was just a schematic drawing. Could someone PLEASE post a copy of the documentation for TOS 1.4 to the net or mail me a copy and I'll post it. Aaron the Alchemist Charlop@uwachem.washington.edu "Yes, I really am a honest-to-goodness alchemist" Me Aaron Charlop Nuclear Physics Lab, GL-10 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 89 01:11:05 GMT From: moreno@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Andres Moreno) Subject: TOS 1.4 release I went to my local dealer (Computer Fitness in Little Canada, MN) to inquire about updating my TOS roms. They told me that they could only get 4 sets of roms that were for the desktop publishing systems. I insisted that I had seen in the net people from *ATARI* telling us all to take a stroll to our neigh- borhood dealer. ATARI, what is going on? How long do I have to wait to be able to buy a ROM set in a major metropolitan area (mpls/st. paul)? Will you buy my ST from me so I can buy a computer that is supported by its manufacturer? oops! I forgot to ask if I get my little ditto sheet about the O.S. with my receipt for $100! Andres "I'll never buy another Atari product" Moreno ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #524 *****************************************